The vandankenstein is the one in the foreground to the right. The main shute has literally just started showing asymmetricall growth at 17". In case anyone does not know when a plant stops growing symmetrically (new shutes grow directly across from each other) and start growing asymmetrically (new shutes offset each other) this is an indication that the plant is ready to start flowering. Of course you dont have to do it then. I do because I have a perpetual harvest going so i dont have time or space to let plants get past 4-5 ft when finished.